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Vegan Community Needs

Is living in harmony with nature really that offensive?

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Being a vegan or a vegetarian for that matter doesn't come with its own set of continuous obstacles. The first being, you need to tell the carnivorous majority that you've decided eating meat is a no-no and that from now on you'd appreciate if they'd respect that. From then on there are a number of possible dramas – do I buy these leather shoes? Where can I find vegan ice-cream? Is it ok that I am working in a job that serves up carcasses? Well I think the greatest hope is a sense of community, people who will support your choices, not mock them.

A community of support or a network allows you to gain all the information you will need regarded your choice to become vegan. However it probably runs a bit deeper – Most of these communities aren't equipped to help you find work, and the reasons many vegans do not work, is because it is difficult to find a job that is ethical in a vegan sense. You can rule out the food industry, the clothing industry, and even most business in some way make decisions which send Earth critters to the chopping block.

Well, what is your opinion about this? Does being vegan mean saying no to the job at McDonalds, does it mean not working in a clothes outlet because they sell wool and leather products? It probably should, but vegans need money as well if they want to survive in society. I've quit a job because I couldn't handle serving up meat to business fat cats – working as a waitress in a 5 star restaurant pays well, but it takes its toll. So I've gone into business for myself (writing as a journalist on Newsvine – kidding) a number of small scale enterprises and I'm taking on vegan volunteers.

My community is not a vegan community, most of my friends are not vegan, there was a time, and it was a good time, when many of my close friends were vegan, but they've moved on. Now I am just a resentful non-conformist, and the distance has grown between some of my other friends because I feel like I'm not protected and not respected, and I don't really have any power to make them feel otherwise. There is some respect there, the people I spend my time with have a good sense of how to respect other people's beliefs, but it gets lonely it gets difficult and it gets me down.

I think although they might not have high rates of employment, I think many vegans are overworked trying to belong to the community. The belief that eating meat and the industry that tortures and kills them is evil is one that challenges a lot of people. That is not to say that people are evil, they just aren't aware that going vegetarian or vegan is a valid choice, or do not think it is a necessary one. So what? I'm vegan it's my choice, when do I get respect for that?

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How do you feel about your local vegan community? Is it too political, or spiritual / religious? If you don't have a community, how do you fair on your own, I've found it difficult finding a group of people who share my views about what we eat, its not like its a big deal, its just common sense to me, people who don't feel that way, obviously will have their own opinion about what it means to vegan.

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Reply#1 - Sat Nov 7, 2009 8:42 PM EST
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How do you feel about your local vegan community?

I know of no vegan community. Except maybe in online forums. I belong to Atheist Nexus and they have a vegetarian/vegan group. Even that group is less than 200 people. Veganism is extremely rare. I read books and connect with people online, but I don't personally know ANY other vegans.

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#1.1 - Sat Nov 7, 2009 8:54 PM EST
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In my city there are a few vegan resources, but they relate to cruelty free shops and resources, they hold regular meetings for a number of reasons, including cooking lessons, and even various ethical meetings, including a zeitgeist meeting I think once. I think that when I say vegan community, I am thinking about real life, the human factor in choosing to abstain from animal cruelty. Vegetarian restaurants, etc, I think it is so important, and I don't want to waste my life explaining why I'm vegan.

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    #1.2 - Sat Nov 7, 2009 9:28 PM EST
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    {"commentId":10573009,"authorDomain":"MsLabMgr"}

    I’m on the Sustainability Committee where I work and, two years ago when the committee was formed, was the only member who was NOT at least vegetarian.

    After learning (though the committee & our discussion groups) about the huge, negative impact eating meat has on our environment I soon become a vegetarian. The other committee members have been very helpful with recipes, tips, restaurant suggestions, etc.

    We have a group in town called Green Drinks. They meet once a month at a local vegetarian restaurant. Maybe your town has one – or you could start one. And, since I live in a college town, there are many student groups for vegetarian/vegans.

    I think being a vegetarian or vegan does mean taking into consideration the impact of your job and the things you buy on the environment and other sentient beings. I believe that every time I spend money I “vote” for the business I give my money to - that I agree with their social & environmental practices. I have a little book call “the Better World Shopping Guide” that helps me with my decisions.

    I would suggest looking for vegans through a local sustainable/green group. You may want to look for Vegan groups on Facebook too.

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    Reply#2 - Mon Nov 9, 2009 11:05 AM EST
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    Yes, I've done that, and there are lots of resources, but the people factor is a little low. I think it is quintessential for people who are vegan to communicate, it lightens the load, but also some people (who are single) prefer to be with vegetarians or vegans, the more I think about it, the more it is a lifestyle, not just a diet.

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    #2.1 - Mon Nov 9, 2009 1:23 PM EST
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    I live in Portland, OR. We have a thriving vegan community. In addition to the plethora of vegan and veg-friendly restaurants, we also have several vegan-friendly and vegan-owned businesses. Portland organizations such as Meetup.com and NW Veg hold frequent social gatherings (primarily potlucks, but also work days at a local Farm Sanctuary) and vegan outreach group Try Vegan PDX hold a "vegan prom" every Summer.

    In short, I love my vegan community. With the exception of my coworkers and only a few of my friends and acquaintances, everyone I know is vegan. My out-of-town friends often accuse Portlanders of living in a "vegan bubble", and I agree (gladly).

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    Reply#3 - Mon Nov 9, 2009 3:04 PM EST
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    My out-of-town friends often accuse Portlanders of living in a "vegan bubble", and I agree (gladly).

    Sounds great! Maybe I should move.

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    #3.1 - Mon Nov 9, 2009 4:51 PM EST
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    I've heard good things about Portland, I think Sydney in Australia is a little more vegan friendly, but I don't know about the communities, I think I might start something if I can, with friends.

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    #3.2 - Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:31 PM EST
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